John Hillje asked the question what do conservatives believe and what is true and not true in regard to Sue Piner’s statements about the election and the Capitol riot. According to recent polls, close to 80% of the 75 million Trump voters agree with Sue Piner that the election was stolen. The media/Dems like to say that 60 lawsuits were rejected by the courts proving that the election was not stolen. What is overlooked by the media/Dems is the fact that these lawsuits were not rejected on the merits, but on technicalities. The thousands of affidavits were never heard and judged by the courts.

As for the Capitol riot — this was terrible and should be condemned. I have personally been to Trump rallies and what I have witnessed is Trump supporters who want to express their support for Trump in a safe, non-violent way. Were there Trump supporters who engaged in bad behavior? Possibly, but we will find out more as the investigation goes on. It is also likely there are some bad actors from the left who planned and infiltrated the protest. Unfortunately, the media/Dems want to paint all at the rally with the same brush.

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Quincy Adams

Quote from David Taylor, “What is overlooked by the media/Dems is the fact that these lawsuits were not rejected on the merits, but on technicalities. The thousands of affidavits were never heard and judged by the courts.”

The notion that the 60+ lawsuits were rejected based on technicalities is not true.

It is not illegal for Trump, Giuliani and his loony Q-anon supporting legal team to lie to the public. (Do some research if you didn’t already know Trump has Q-anon conspiracy peddlers on his legal team).

What is illegal is for Trump’s legal defense team to present these same lies as evidence to the judges. That is why evidence is never introduced in the courtroom, not because it is rejected on “technicalities”. Trump’s lawyers know they would risk perjuring themselves and face the harsh consequences of lying under oath.

They purposely and easily manipulate an enraged Trump base that want to believe such inflammatory lies.. but they knowingly dodge risking their livelihood and likely conviction of peddling unsubstantiated fake evidence (lies). It is really that simple.

The good news is all the Trump propagandists behind the “Big Lie” may have some massive financial consequences to pay.

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Excerpts from https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/business/media/conservative-media-defamation-lawsuits.html

Smartmatic, a voter technology firm swept up in conspiracies spread by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies, filed its defamation suit against Rupert Murdoch’s Fox empire on Thursday, citing Mr. Dobbs and two other Fox anchors, Maria Bartiromo and Jeanine Pirro, for harming its business and reputation.

Fox Business canceled its highest rated show, “Lou Dobbs Tonight,” on Friday after its host was sued as part of a $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit. On Tuesday, the pro-Trump cable channel Newsmax cut off a guest’s rant about rigged voting machines. Fox News, which seldom bows to critics, has run fact-checking segments to debunk its own anchors’ false claims about electoral fraud.

Dominion Voting Systems, another company that Mr. Trump has accused of rigging votes, filed defamation suits last month against two of the former president’s lawyers, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Sidney Powell, on similar grounds. Both firms have signaled that more lawsuits may be imminent.

Litigation represents a new front in the war against misinformation, a scourge that has reshaped American politics, deprived citizens of common facts and paved the way for the deadly Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

Jim Sohan

Yes, it’s true, as long as people believe the conspiracies and falsehoods put forth by Donald Trump and his acolytes, President Biden will have a hard time uniting the Country. The election was not stolen. Court cases were not thrown out on technical reasons, they were thrown out because Trump’s lawyers failed to provide any evidence of fraud, even when prodded by the judges to provide such evidence. When people except President Biden won the election fair and square, we might actually have a chance to start making some progress in uniting this Country. Trump promised to save the coal industry and it continued to hemorrhage jobs during his entire time in office. I think Texans are smart enough not to believe the same fairy tale promises when it comes to oil. Jobs related to the clean and renewable energy sectors in Texas already exceed the number of oil and chemical industry jobs, and that gap continue to increase. These new jobs are well paying, safer, and reduce the negative impact on the environment. Texas doesn’t need to save oil jobs, it needs to continue expanding jobs in the alternative energy fields and ensure Texas becomes the leader in these new/emerging markets. It really doesn’t matter in the long run though, market forces will steer Texas towards clean/renewable energy. The only question is do we want to encourage and make it as smooth as possible, or do we want to fight against it tooth and nail while allowing other states and countries to take the lead in those fields.

Jim Sohan

Oops ... When people accept President Biden won the election fair and square, ...

Kevin Carroll

How true Mr. Taylor. The new administration wont make any friends in Texas due to their position on the energy industry causing continued division.

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